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Midwest Powders and referenced “Similar to” powders
In the past American Reloading sold Midwest Powders with instructions to use [some particular canister powder] load data. They stopped using that language1 and now say the MP is similar to another powder.2 The website listing for each powder shows load data for only one commonly-used projectile appropriate for the powder. 9mm 147gr FMJ or .223 55gr FMJ, for example.
the list
| MP 000 ################## |
| MP 035 Similar to Red Dot** |
| MP 040 Similar to Silhouette** |
| MP 065 Similar to 700x* |
| MP 067 Similar to Alliant Sport* |
| MP 074 Similar to Titegroup* |
| MP 075 Similar to Titegroup*,** trapshooters |
| MP 077 Similar to Titegroup |
| MP 080 Similar to Silhouette* /r/reloading, /r/AmericanReloading, /r/reloading |
| MP 085-1 Similar to 700X |
| MP 090 Similar to Silhouette* |
| MP 092-1 Similar to 700X |
| MP 100 ################## |
| MP 100-1 Similar to American Select |
| MP 100-2 Similar to American Select |
| MP 100-3 Similar to American Select |
| MP 130 Similar to IMR PB* |
| MP 132-2 Similar to IMR Target /r/AmericanReloading |
| MP 132-3 Similar to IMR Target castboolits |
| MP 132-7 Similar to IMR Target |
| MP 132-8 Similar to IMR Target |
| MP 132 Similar to IMR Target |
| MP 137 Similar to Win 244* |
| MP 138 Similar to Win 244* |
| MP 139 Similar to Win 231* |
| MP 140 Similar to Win 231* |
| MP 141 Similar to Win 231* |
| MP 150 Similar to Win 244* |
| MP 151 Similar to Win 244* |
| MP 152-3 Similar to Win 244 |
| MP 153-1 Similar to Win 244 |
| MP 154-9 Similar to Win 244** |
| MP 155-1 Similar to Unique castboolits |
| MP 156 Similar to Unique* ravenrocks forum, castboolits |
| MP 158-1 Similar to Universal |
| MP 160 Similar to Universal** |
| MP 163 Similar to CBI* |
| MP 165 Similar to BE-86* |
| MP 170-4 Similar to Herco |
| MP 172 CSB-1 |
| MP 175 Similar to BE-88* |
| MP 187-3 Similar to WSF |
| MP 187-5 Similar to WSF |
| MP 187-6 Similar to WSF |
| MP 187 Similar to Herco* |
| MP 190-1 NO ‘Similar to’, Use Data |
| MP 190 Similar to WSF* /r/reloading, ar15 |
| MP 193 Similar to 800x* |
| MP 194 Similar to 800x* |
| MP 195 Similar to 572** carolinafirearmsforum |
| MP 200 ################## |
| MP 200 Similar to Accurate #5* |
| MP 205-1 Similar to Accurate #5 |
| MP 205-2 Similar to Accurate #5 |
| MP 208-1 Similar to 800X |
| MP 208-2 Similar to 800X |
| MP 209-1 Similar to 800X** 10mm-auto, 10mm-auto, 10mm-auto, bayoushooter |
| MP 209-4 Similar to CBI |
| MP 209-5 Similar to CBI Pistol |
| MP 209-6 Similar to CBI Pistol |
| MP 211 Similar to Accurate #5* |
| MP 212-1 Similar to HS-6 /r/AmericanReloading |
| MP 212-3 Similar to HS-6 |
| MP 212-4 Similar to HS-6 |
| MP 212-5 Similar to HS-6 |
| MP 215 Similar to Vectan D20 trapshooters |
| MP 220-1 Similar to Autocomp |
| MP 220-1 Similar to CFE Pistol |
| MP 221 Similar to Silhouette* |
| MP 225 Similar to CFE Pistol* |
| MP 227 NO ‘Similar to’, Use Data |
| MP 229-1 No similar to, use data |
| MP 229-1 Similar to |
| MP 229 NO ‘Similar to’, Use Data |
| MP 240 Similar to 572* |
| MP 244 Similar to IMR Blue* |
| MP 245 Similar to IMR Blue* |
| MP 246 Similar to IMR Blue* |
| MP 247 Similar to IMR Blue* |
| MP 248 Similar to IMR Blue |
| MP 249 Similar to IMR Blue* castboolits |
| MP 250 Similar to IMR Blue* ravenrocks forum |
| MP 251 Similar to Blue Dot* thehighroad |
| MP 252 Similar to Blue Dot* |
| MP 253 Similar to Blue Dot* |
| MP 254-1 Similar to 572 castboolits |
| MP 254-2 Similar to W572 |
| MP 254 Similar to Blue Dot* |
| MP 255 Similar to Blue Dot* |
| MP 256 Similar to Blue Dot* |
| MP 257 Similar to Blue Dot* |
| MP 258 Similar to Blue Dot* |
| MP 260-1 Similar to Accurate #7 /r/AmericanReloading |
| MP 265 Similar to Accurate #7* |
| MP 275 Similar to Longshot** |
| MP 276-3 NO ‘Similar to’, Use Data |
| MP 277-3 NO ‘Similar to’, Use Data castboolits |
| MP 290-1 No similar to, use data |
| MP 290 Similar to Alliant 2400 |
| MP 300 ################## |
| MP 300 Similar to Alliant 4100* |
| MP 310 Similar to Ramshot Enforcer* |
| MP 315 Similar to Alliant 4100* |
| MP 320 Similar to Lil Gun* |
| MP 325 Similar to Sunar 7.62* |
| MP 325 Similar to Win 296* |
| MP 329 Similar to H110* |
| MP 330-4 Similar to H110 |
| MP 330 Similar to Win 296* |
| MP 332 Similar to H110* |
| MP 334-2 Similar to 11FS |
| MP 334-3 Similar to 11 FS |
| MP 335 Similar to H110* |
| MP 340 Similar to IMR 4227* |
| MP 348-3 Similar to Accurate 1680 |
| MP 350 Similar to Accurate 1680 |
| MP 355 Similar to Accurate 2200* |
| MP 375 Similar to Alliant Power Pro* |
| MP 380 Similar to Sunar 5.56* |
| MP 385-1 Similar to RL 10X |
| MP 395 Similar to IMR 3031* |
| MP 397 Similar to Benchmark* |
| MP 400 ################## |
| MP 400 Similar to N133* |
| MP 405 Similar to Benchmark** ar15 |
| MP 410 Similar to SMP 739** |
| MP 414-1 Similar to H335 |
| MP 414-7 Similar to H335 |
| MP 414-8 Similar to H335 |
| MP 414-9 Similar to H335 |
| MP 415 Similar to H335** snipershide |
| MP 416-1 Similar to H335 |
| MP 416-2 Similar to H335 |
| MP 416-6 Similar to H335 |
| MP 417-1 Similar to H335 |
| MP 418 Similar to H335** |
| MP 420-1 Similar to X-Terminator |
| MP 424-1 Similar to Accurate 2230 |
| MP 424-8 Similar to Accurate 2230 |
| MP 425-1 Similar to Accurate 2230 ar15 |
| MP 426-3 Similar to Accurate 2230 |
| MP 426 Similar to Accurate 2230** /r/AmericanReloading |
| MP 427-1 Similar to Accurate 2460 |
| MP 435 Similar to IMR 8208Xb** |
| MP 440 Similar to Ramshot TAC /r/reloading |
| MP 445 Similar to Alliant Power Pro* |
| MP 450 Similar to Ramshot TAC* |
| MP 455 Similar to H4895* |
| MP 459 Similar to H4895* |
| MP 460 Similar to H4895* |
| MP 470 Similar to Accurate 2495* |
| MP 475 [no Similar to] wethearmed, /r/reloading |
| MP 479 Similar to IMR 4064* |
| MP 480 Similar to IMR 4064* |
| MP 495 Similar to 2520* |
| MP 500 ################## |
| MP 500-1 Similar to RL 15 |
| MP 501 Similar to 2520** |
| MP 502 Similar to Power Pro 2000-MR** (“poor temp stability”) |
| MP 503 Similar to Norma 203B |
| MP 510 Similar to Varget* |
| MP 513-1 Similar to Win 748 |
| MP 514 Similar to Win 748* |
| MP 515-1 Similar to StaBall Match |
| MP 515-7 Similar to Win 748 |
| MP 517 Similar to BL-C2* |
| MP 518 Similar to StaBall Match* |
| MP 519 Similar to BL-C2* |
| MP 520-1 Similar to StaBall Match |
| MP 520-2 Similar to StaBall Match |
| MP 520-8 Similar to StaBall Match |
| MP 520-9 Similar to StaBall Match |
| MP 520 Similar to StaBall Match** ar15 |
| MP 521-1 Similar to BL-C2 |
| MP 521-2 Similar to BL-C2 |
| MP 521-3 Similar to BL-C2 |
| MP 521 Similar to BL-C2 (“as close to BL-C2 you can get”) |
| MP 522 Similar to BL-C2** |
| MP 525 Similar to CFE 223* snipershide |
| MP 530-3 Similar to CFE 223 |
| MP 537 Similar to Power Pro 2000-MR* |
| MP 538 Similar to Power Pro 2000-MR* |
| MP 540 Similar to Big Game* |
| MP 540 Similar to Vihtavuori N540** akreloading, natoreloading, northwestfirearms, /r/reloading |
| MP 541 Similar to Big Game* |
| MP 542 Similar to Big Game* |
| MP 543 Similar to Big Game* |
| MP 545 Similar to Big Game* |
| MP 549 Similar to Winchester 760 |
| MP 550 Similar to 4000 MR |
| MP 551 Similar to Win 760 |
| MP 553 Similar to Win 760* |
| MP 554 Similar to Win 760* |
| MP 555 Similar to Win 760* |
| MP 556 Similar to Win 760* |
| MP 560 Similar to Norma URP* |
| MP 565 Similar to N550* |
| MP 570 Similar to Accurate 2700* |
| MP 575-1 Similar to IMR 4350 |
| MP 579 Similar to IMR 4451** |
| MP 580 Similar to IMR 4451* akreloading |
| MP 585 Similar to H4350* |
| MP 587-1 Similar to RL 17 |
| MP 587-3 Similar to RL 17 |
| MP 589 Similar to Big Game* |
| MP 590-1 Similar to Accurate 4360 |
| MP 590 Similar to RL 17* |
| MP 595 Similar to IMR 4350* |
| MP 600 ################## |
| MP 600 Similar to Normal 204* |
| MP 605 Similar to Hybrid 100V* |
| MP 607 Similar to StaBall 6.5* |
| MP 608-1 Similar to StaBall 6.5 |
| MP 609 Similar to StaBall 6.5** |
| MP 610-2 Similar to StaBall 6.5 |
| MP 610 Similar to N550** |
| MP 611 Similar to StaBall 6.5* |
| MP 612 Similar to StaBall 6.5** |
| MP 613-1 Similar to StaBall |
| MP 613-1 Similar to Superformance |
| MP 615-3 Similar to Superformance |
| MP 615-4 Similar to Superformance |
| MP 615-6 Similar to Superformance |
| MP 615-7 Similar to Superformance |
| MP 620 Similar to Reloder 19 youtube |
| MP 622 Similar to IMR 4831* |
| MP 625 Similar to Ramshot Hunter* |
| MP 630 Similar to Ramshot Hunter* |
| MP 636 Similar to 4000 MR* |
| MP 636 Similar to N555** |
| MP 637 Similar to 4000 MR* |
| MP 638-2 Similar to H4831** akreloading |
| MP 638 Similar to Alliant 4000 MR* |
| MP 639 Similar to Alliant 4000 MR* |
| MP 640 Similar to IMR 4831* |
| MP 641 Similar to IMR 4831* |
| MP 642 Similar to 4000 MR* |
| MP 645 Similar to Power Pro N560* |
| MP 650 Similar to Superformance* |
| MP 651 Similar to Superformance* |
| MP 655-1 Similar to IMR 4955 |
| MP 661 Similar to 4000 MR |
| MP 661 Supreme 780* |
| MP 662 Supreme 780* |
| MP 663 Similar to 4000 MR |
| MP 666 Supreme 780* |
| MP 667 Supreme 780* |
| MP 668 Supreme 780* |
| MP 669 Supreme 780* |
| MP 673 Similar to RL 22* |
| MP 675-3 Similar to RL 22 |
| MP 680 Similar to RL 23* |
| MP 689 Similar to IMR 7828 SSC* |
| MP 690 Similar to Reloder 25* |
| MP 699 Similar to IMR 7828 SSC |
| MP 700 ################## |
| MP 700 Similar to Reloder 25* |
| MP 702 Similar to Ramshot Grand |
| MP 703-1 Similar to MagPro |
| MP 703 Similar to MagPro |
| MP 704 Similar to MagPro |
| MP 705 Similar to MagPro** |
| MP 710-7 Similar to H1000 |
| MP 710-8 Similar to H1000 |
| MP 710-9 Similar to H1000 |
| MP 710 Similar to H1000 |
| MP 711 Similar to Reloder 26 (“just like RL26 but not as fast”) |
| MP 713 Similar to H1000* |
| MP 714 Similar to H1000* |
| MP 715 Similar to Ramshot Magnum* |
| MP 716 Similar to Ramshot Grand |
| MP 717 Similar to Ramshot Magnum* |
| MP 718 Similar to Ramshot Magnum |
| MP 755 Similar to Hodgdon US869* |
| MP 773 Similar to Hodgdon US869* |
| MP 774 Similar to Hodgdon US869* |
| MP 775 Similar to Hodgdon US869* |
| MP 776 Similar to Hodgdon US869* |
| MP 777 Similar to Hodgdon US869* |
| WC 800 ################## |
| WC 844 Similar to H335 |
| WC 846 Similar to BL-C2** (“much faster”) |
about the list
I’ve made a good-faith effort to be accurate with the list data3 but could have made errors in collection or processing. As with all things reloading, do your own research and “start low, go slow”.
- My preference is to take data directly from AR primary sources: email, site, label images. Data from secondary sources4 is marked with an asterisk (see below).
- AR has a burn rate chart with MP powders on it, and often excerpts a pic from the chart on a powder listing.5 While useful, this list does not interpolate info from the chart.
- A single asterisk (“*”) denotes data from mordecai’s table originally hosted on the steelchickens forum in 2024.6 Double asterisks (“**”) denote user reports that AR gave Similar to info for that powder. In either cases when/if I corroborate from primary sources I’ll remove the asterisk[s].
- links are to results from testing with a listed powder. Note: links to castbullits will likely require registering to read the links. You might be able to use archive.org or similar.
NO ‘Similar to’, Use Dataseems to be shown when AR has not listed a Similar to in the database. I assume there’s a null variable that’s not displaying.
I have not seen an MP XXX-batchnum that had a different Similar to from it’s parent (MP XXX). If this is something we can count on then batch numbers might be stripped out for legibility and just MP XXX entries preserved. That would preclude the ability to add parenthetical notes to batches, though.
Srsly: do not take my word (or anyone else’s) on matters of reloading. Get some manuals, start with light charges and work up, etc. You are responsible for your own loads as I am mine.
Also see the BSK reloading calculator announced in this reddit thread.
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my wild-assed guess is that the suppliers with retail channels wanted some level of obfuscation. Text from an email reportedly from AR suggested that even Similar to requires approval from someone. ↩
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It’s worth noting that I am not claiming that MP-whatever is similar to a given powder. AR is claiming that. Or more obliquely in the case of asterisked entries, someone is publicly stating that MP has claimed that. ↩
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sorry, my academic training was in historical fields so this is the way my head works. ↩
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For example, MP 414 is shown in the newsletter as
Similar to H335. The website listing shows a chart section ~centered on H335. The chart extract itself does not show MP 414 which suggests that the chart and/or screencaps are not updated in tandem with the database. ↩ -
Either the file is gone or requires a login to see it. I archived a (compressed) copy here. mordecai also includes the sample load data from the website. ↩